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    More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers

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    • G
      gDarDog
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      If the mobs dropped items as well it would probably solve that same issue.

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      • V-RageV
        V-Rage
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        There used to be minor bounty items in V4.

        Like orc heads, kobold teeth and things that were worth a small amount of gold with various factions.

        Maybe put em in again but make them worth a small amount of prestige?

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        • HellzYeahH
          HellzYeah
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          It's more about the instant gratification feeling of seeing that xp gain tick up over time. Putting xp on stuff you can turn in doesn't really solve that problem.

          But really the problem here in my eyes is the disparity between these two sections of the level range. It goes decently fast for a good chunk of the range before coming to an almost complete stop once you hit a certain point.

          This is sort of moot, again, because the server really doesn't have enough content for the highest level players in my opinion and while I think the progression one you hit a certain point does feel patently unrewarding for the amount of time needed I think it's secondary to giving players at the level cap more things to do.

          Magpie [17:05] I am begining to notice that people have my quotes within their signitures on the forums <_<

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          • Lord_AcererakL
            Lord_Acererak
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            🤨I could get behind more comment for the higher end range.

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            • ZoolZ
              Zool @O-louth
              last edited by

              @O-louth That's pretty much intentional. There was a lot of feedback about it taking too long to level up.

              We modified the XP gain ranges to make it fast to get to 8, slower to get to 10 from there.

              > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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              • ZoolZ
                Zool @A Former User
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                @Latok Did it with my fighter.

                > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                • ZoolZ
                  Zool @V-Rage
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                  @V-Rage said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                  There used to be minor bounty items in V4.

                  Like orc heads, kobold teeth and things that were worth a small amount of gold with various factions.

                  Maybe put em in again but make them worth a small amount of prestige?

                  This is basically being worked on kinda.

                  > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                  • ZoolZ
                    Zool @HellzYeah
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                    @HellzYeah said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                    It's more about the instant gratification feeling of seeing that xp gain tick up over time. Putting xp on stuff you can turn in doesn't really solve that problem.

                    But really the problem here in my eyes is the disparity between these two sections of the level range. It goes decently fast for a good chunk of the range before coming to an almost complete stop once you hit a certain point.

                    This is sort of moot, again, because the server really doesn't have enough content for the highest level players in my opinion and while I think the progression one you hit a certain point does feel patently unrewarding for the amount of time needed I think it's secondary to giving players at the level cap more things to do.

                    Disagree on the tick up thing you mentioned. I think picking up items after kills works in a similar way regarding the whole endorphin burst thing which appears to be what you're eluding to.

                    More content is way too vague.

                    More quests?
                    Dungeons designed for high levels (have actually nasty spawns that cast spells that can actually scare a level 10?)
                    Items that simply cannot be used unless you are a high level?
                    Special systems you can only use at level 9 and above?

                    What's "more high level content" ?

                    > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                    • HellzYeahH
                      HellzYeah @Zool
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                      @Zool said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                      More quests?
                      Dungeons designed for high levels (have actually nasty spawns that cast spells that can actually scare a level 10?)
                      Items that simply cannot be used unless you are a high level?
                      Special systems you can only use at level 9 and above?

                      What's "more high level content" ?

                      Yes.

                      Magpie [17:05] I am begining to notice that people have my quotes within their signitures on the forums <_<

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                      • ZoolZ
                        Zool @HellzYeah
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                        @HellzYeah said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                        @Zool said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                        More quests?
                        Dungeons designed for high levels (have actually nasty spawns that cast spells that can actually scare a level 10?)
                        Items that simply cannot be used unless you are a high level?
                        Special systems you can only use at level 9 and above?

                        What's "more high level content" ?

                        Yes.

                        Thanks, that makes it much easier to work with...

                        :)

                        > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                        • HellzYeahH
                          HellzYeah
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                          I really think that dungeons are the way to go when you start crossing into those last few levels and would genuinely like to see a lot more of them (or have the current ones expanded to emphasize this more.)

                          But all of those are good ideas.

                          Magpie [17:05] I am begining to notice that people have my quotes within their signitures on the forums <_<

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                          • Lord_AcererakL
                            Lord_Acererak
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                            You're talking about more DMless areas which include puzzles and unique, more historical related story? A good example will be the current popular one, the Haunted Halls?

                            Because I am ALL OVER this.

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                              Zool @Lord_Acererak
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                              @Lord_Acererak I think they also want the areas to be more dangerous, even for high levels.

                              > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                              • Lord_AcererakL
                                Lord_Acererak
                                last edited by

                                More..
                                Beholders.

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                                • sharkinajarS
                                  sharkinajar @Lord_Acererak
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                                  @Lord_Acererak Would be something to behold, that's for sure.

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                                  • Lord_AcererakL
                                    Lord_Acererak
                                    last edited by

                                    Didn’t mean to derail.

                                    More dmless dungeons that offer high risk high rewards for the 8-10 range. Totally agree this sounds good. Ofc bad guys to support the fear involved with these areas.

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                                    • AcemviA
                                      Acemvi
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                                      I think more areas like the Haunted Halls (but even more dangerous) would be cool. One of the issues that stems from the massive rebalancing effort of CARES spawns and quests is that nothing feels dangerous anymore, outside of obvious "PLEASE DON'T TOUCH" NPCs like the Hive Mother in the Helmlands or DM spawns.

                                      The wilderness doesn't feel terribly wild.

                                      "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." - Albert Camus

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                                      • EchoE
                                        Echo
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                                        @Acemvi said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                                        like the Haunted Halls (but even more dangerous)

                                        If they're not sufficiently dangerous enough, then I've failed in my intention.

                                        "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                                          Zool @Echo
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                                          @Echo said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                                          @Acemvi said in More balance ideas! Specifically regarding hp, classes, and xp, ready your salt shakers:

                                          like the Haunted Halls (but even more dangerous)

                                          If they're not sufficiently dangerous enough, then I've failed in my intention.

                                          They made you nerf the slimes with acid fog though, so it's not really your fault.

                                          > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                                          • Lord_AcererakL
                                            Lord_Acererak @Acemvi
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                                            @Acemvi

                                            This is good feed back. Do you feel the Veluuthra are scary in the Hullack? Or the earth Drake's?

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