before I let Hangman know, how would we feel about this app with the change to Cansin?

I really dont see much wrong with the app as it is, it would be pretty time heavy but thats up to Hangman to feel out.

I think this application applies just fine to Lycan/Cansin. I do agree with echo/puff that it fits -better- with Cansin.

Once I have yalls opinions ill respond to Hangman

I don't think I've ever voted no on this PCs stuff. they do a great job of involving others.

Agreed, much better app, and he's not running around with 8 charisma. Huge steps in the right direction.

He also has been in game and actually pursuing plots, roleplaying with companions, etc. He bore witness to Zakaths' trial and I really liked that he tried to check his weapon at the door thinking the palace wouldn't allow swords. He later provided escort with Morpheus out of the city.

Not exactly HoA examples, just fun RP that I generally don't see from RazGrizz.

@SpiffyMeister LOL That's kind of amazing. Holy shit.

Agreed, I have seen him running around as well with 6 cha max dex or max con pcs.

I think that's a separate issue all together, though. Someone not roleplaying their stats is different from someone not understanding how to submit an appropriate application.

In this case, I think he's guilty of both.

Raz has wanted a story involving some kind of secret background for awhile.

This appears to hinge on "Chosen by Corelleon"

Literally gods-touched elves. This is alittle OP for our setting.

Gods Touched, Royal, and essentially official clergy (picked by the church)? Might as well make him a half dragon, too.

I would have no issues with a regular elf direct descendant of a Hullack-Elf tribe. But this feels like too much tea in the tea pot. We could even let him name the tribe, and if he's doing well and involving players, dot in some references about the tribe. But this doesn't require Aasamir or royal blood.

Recommend Special Background: as an Elf of the Hullack trying to recover lost land.

These are some good suggestions guys. I haven't read all of them yet, but I wanted to toss out some positive encouragement.

@CrazyZleric I see what you're saying, but you must see the problem with just putting a 'good item' in an outdoor area, right?

area loot has to reset, or the next guy gets nothing and there is only loot once a reset. But if it resets, and there is just a +1 sword sitting in a box, then that specific area gets over camped to the nine and it becomes a silly ooc game of where's waldo.

So its gotta be good, but hard to find, but also worth finding, yet not something everyone can just get. >_>

Which is why I was asking instead, what type of an interaction would become more engaging, make it feel "worth it" without just dropping the phrase "more loot."

I'm sure there is something we can do to make this worth while. Like a random area spawn with an event, or a hidden prestige-dump faction which could sell scary stuff, or super rare treasure maps which unlock a quest. Hidden difficult quests locked behind some knowledge. That sorta thing. Those kinds of suggestions. Stuff to make DMless fun.

Fluff/plot really gets my blood pumping to be honest, and it's why I used to explore. I was part of the players begging for more reasons to go out to the fringes of the server with other players.

Lets talk abit about what we can do to improve those areas.

Before we start talking loot, how would you expect a plot discovery, lore area, language area to be made more engaging?

Edit:
By blood pumping, I mean in a good way.

We're in 24 hour confirmation! RRaaawwrr!

I have no issues with them returning to a character they liked. I think if this gets him IG, it's fine.

Does make me sigh pretty heavily at the transcendence thing, but say c'est la vie.