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    Yavamaya
    last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 13:15

    I find it bizarre that monks are one of the few classes absolutely dedicated to melee, but have had their HD reduced to a d6. They were already squishy before that change, and this seems like it's unnecessarily stepping on an already subpar choice (in the current scheme of things).

    Raise them back to a d8? d10?

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      Zool
      last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 14:18

      This would be something that would be part of the entire rebalance if the class we want to do but haven't gotten around to.

      > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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        CitizenBane
        last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:20

        They're not a d6, but a d8 class using the horrible average HP system, something we should not get into here. That explains their abysmal hp.

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          Yavamaya @CitizenBane
          last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:26

          @CitizenBane they're listed as d6 in the mechanics changes. Or am I misunderstanding it?

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            CitizenBane
            last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:27

            They should have 6 hp per level, or is it only 4?

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              Yavamaya @CitizenBane
              last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:29

              @CitizenBane its 4.

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                Prof. Misclick
                last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:32

                Monks are a d8 class. They should be getting 6 hp per level. At some point there is a class rework planned for them, much like was done for Rogue and Fighter recently and previously the Bard Song and Barbarian Rage.

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                  CitizenBane
                  last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:32

                  Gross..... horrendous even. WHO THE HELL PUT THAT IDEA THROUGH?!?!?!?

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                    Prof. Misclick
                    last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:34

                    Everyone calm down. It is not 4 hp. There was an error on the forum which has been changed.

                    Hit Points is worked out on an dice average and adjusted to balance out other class perks. Each level a class will be given a set point of HP. The HP average for each class is listed below:

                    d12- 10hp - Barbarian (Dwarven Defender)
                    d10- 8hp - Fighter, (Black Guard, Divine Champion, Purple Dragon Knight, Weapon Master)
                    d10- 7hp - Paladin
                    d8- 6hp - Ranger, Cleric, Druid, Monk (Arcane Archer, Shadowdancer, Shifter)
                    d6- 4 hp - Bard, Rogue (Assassin, Harper Scout, Pale Master, Red Dragon Dicipline)
                    d4- 3hp - Sorcerer, Wizard

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                      Prof. Misclick @Yavamaya
                      last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:36

                      @Yavamaya said in Increase Monk base HP:

                      @CitizenBane they're listed as d6 in the mechanics changes. Or am I misunderstanding it?

                      Sorry for the confusion :D

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                        Yavamaya @Prof. Misclick
                        last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:38

                        @Prof-Misclick much less concerning. Thank you!

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                          Prof. Misclick
                          last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:40

                          Yeah. Monk are pretty awful right now. Something we will eventually address.

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                            CitizenBane @Prof. Misclick
                            last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:48

                            @Prof-Misclick said in Increase Monk base HP:

                            Yeah. Monk are pretty awful right now. Something we will eventually address.

                            Monks are probably THE hardest class to balance. They're either shit or godly powerful. So... there's that

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                              Prof. Misclick @CitizenBane
                              last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:50

                              @CitizenBane You offering up your expertise? I loved what you offered for Bard and Barb previously

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                                CitizenBane @Prof. Misclick
                                last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:52

                                @Prof-Misclick said in Increase Monk base HP:

                                @CitizenBane You offering up your expertise? I loved what you offered for Bard and Barb previously

                                If i am to be totally honest, monks and druid is where my expertise is sadly, quite lacking. I just know that the EfU team hasn't been able to find a sweet spot with monks and they're really good at it..... so...... Monks are really hard to balance :/

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                                  Prof. Misclick @CitizenBane
                                  last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:54

                                  @CitizenBane said in Increase Monk base HP:

                                  @Prof-Misclick said in Increase Monk base HP:

                                  @CitizenBane You offering up your expertise? I loved what you offered for Bard and Barb previously

                                  If i am to be totally honest, monks and druid is where my expertise is sadly, quite lacking. I just know that the EfU team hasn't been able to find a sweet spot with monks and they're really good at it..... so...... Monks are really hard to balance :/

                                  So it's your fault. :astonished_face: Most of what I learned about Mechanics was at your finishing school. Those classes are not my strength either.

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                                    Prof. Misclick
                                    last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 17:55

                                    Closing this for now.

                                    Cheers everyone.

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