Remove ECL

[Mr.Moloch]

Remove ECL. The original idea was to slow leveling of characters who typically got a 10% to 20% buff to a stat or two by about 10 to 20%. But they still leveled at a decent rate. We largely thought this would slow powergaming but it never did.

With the way xp doesn't curve but just stops at 9th level that turns your level 8 ecl experience to a real grind and puts them at a clear disadvantage to non-ecl by taking a 10% hit to saves, hp, and maybe even AB.

This does not serve the purpose and these characters apply for a perk. But in this xp curve, it's a downside.

[Cojak81]

Seconded!

@Mr-Moloch

[EyeOfGruumsh]

Rats.

I mean - these are special concept apps. I think the driving motivation to play these exceptional characters should be a real interest in whatever the concept is.

We have seen a lot of really scary and sometimes outright overpowering application characters out there - so if the mechanics become even more of the main attraction, I would see some issues.

Consider also that achievements or track record etc. from previous characters play absolutely zero role for perks like these granted at the start of a character to ensure that blank slate that Zool has been so adamant about existing. Therefore, just anyone who knows how to write a good app would get these. And some, like the were-rats, can become dominatingly powerful.

[lateralus]

They should be very powerful, so I don’t see an issue there.

[Echo]

Unlikely to happen.

[Mr.Moloch]

And happened! Except for lycans, which are ECL 1 now.