Beaky (Ashe)/Bitterbeak/Kenku Race [Withdrawn]

Echo

[4:07 PM]Echo: ok so .. about the app 🙂
[4:07 PM]Ashe: Shoot 🙂
[4:09 PM]Echo: the backstory is really cool, I enjoyed reading the character description. but there are no goals, nothing to say "I'm going to do these things to tell a story and involve others" except maybe the bit about spying on groups? The goal is to kill everyone by spying on everyone?
[4:09 PM]Ashe: I ran out of space somewhat with the lengthy backstory >.> XD
[4:09 PM]Echo: writers usually do that 🙂
[4:10 PM]Echo: but you need goals for an app
[4:15 PM]Ashe: Yeah, I was just trying not to fall into the issue I had with Leona where I had good solid set goals and then proceeded to make no progress.
The spying and killing thing is the Tl;Dr on it.
On the surface, I was gonna go for playing the Minion Toadey type. And act as a saboteur to various Player and DM factions. Picking up secrets and laying down lies to cause chaos among them. Feeding information to their enemies, getting people into position for Ambushes, that sort of thing. And if caught out just playing that I was bullied and forced into it.

PCs in DM factions like the Crown Guard and Precept can be led on wild goose chases, pushed to make a mockery of themselves and the organizations they represent.

Meanwhile, I'd be looking out for other Chaotic PCs. Ones who could be trusted with little pieces of the eventual plan to see it all burn. Most of them being led to assume they'd be the exception. I'm hoping to rope in some of what are current the Orc Tribe players when they finally kick the bucket, I have one or two interested already, but the nature of the concept means I don't want details too out in the open too early.
[4:16 PM]Ashe: I want Bitterbeak to work for, with, or against pretty much every player around in one way or another.
[4:18 PM]Ashe: On a factional level, trying to Push the Consortium to turn against the ideals of the city would be a major goal, but that is highly DM dependant so obviously that's a late stage thing if waves are getting made between PCs
[4:21 PM]Echo: I'll add this to the thread.
[4:21 PM]Ashe: Thanks, Goals are always the weak part of my apps.
[4:21 PM]Ashe: In the end, if it doesn't pass not the end of the world. But gotta shoot the shot!

Zool

Surprisingly... the only thing I object to with this, is that stupid fucking name.

"I'm going to be a secretive spy, who tries to get people on side and make them think I don't hate them, so I can trick them into fucking up and killing themselves"

"Also, my name is BITTERbeak"

Don't be an idiot, give yourself a chance.

Might as well just * Rolls Bluff * with a name like that.

Man in the Mist

Players asking about the app, does anyone else want to vote?

Salem

Yes.

I am all for the freaks.

Echo

@zool said in Beaky (Ashe)/Bitterbeak/Kenku Race + Perks:

Might as well just * Rolls Bluff * with a name like that.

true. names like that just .. whatever.
as for the goals:

be a minion for everyone yet no one because working against everyone
if this pc sees everyone as their enemy, who is their ally? who will be ambushing the people they lure to ambushes?
wild goose chases for what? PCs? NPCs? Monsters?
maybe get the halforc PCs to play kenkus later?
do stuff with the Consortium (which really doesnt exist any more?); at least Ashe acknowledges this is very DM heavy

IDK; just not seeing it?

Man in the Mist

The vibe I got, and I could be wrong here, is they'd be doing stuff like the half orc boys did, where they framed the cyricists for leaving undead everywhere and started a war.

Half orc boys didn't need a dm for that or even planned it from the beginning, they just saw an opportunity to manipulate the players to their advantage and took it.

We can always ask Ashe to change the name if it's that much of an issue.

I don't see the harm in it. We let far weaker apps pass.

Echo

@man-in-the-mist said in Beaky (Ashe)/Bitterbeak/Kenku Race + Perks:

We let far weaker apps pass

We did say that if someone had a really good app, that we'd allow them to return. Does this count as a really good app?

Man in the Mist

@echo "As far as apps go it's probably the most interesting concept we've gotten in years, and is well written." :P

Echo

Got this about 10 minutes ago

[3:14 PM]Ashe: Hey Echo, Given it some thought and I'd like to Retract the App for now.
The Goals are vague and kinda rushed, and even if by some miracle what I've put forth does pass it, I'm worried I'll lose my way with it and give it up and that'd be a waste of a concept I'm pretty enthusiastic about (As the lengthy backstory suggests).
[3:15 PM]Ashe: Much rather put it to the side for now, play some Non App Characters to get my head back into things with no pressure, and then come back to it with a more solid idea of for goals. rather than potentially mess it up because I rushed it.

Man in the Mist

Rip never goin to bat for Ashe again

Prof. Misclick

@man-in-the-mist said in Beaky (Ashe)/Bitterbeak/Kenku Race [Withdrawn]:

Rip never goin to bat for Ashe again

I blame you for all this. <3