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Lower the potion prices.

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    CrazyZleric
    last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 14:11

    I have a seriously crazy idea! I have a character that bakes, most of the baked goods do what potions do but no one buys them for what I've been told are weight concerns. I also brew potions that no one seems to want to buy. To me you have cheaper alternatives than the potion vendors.

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      Zolm @CrazyZleric
      last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 14:22

      @crazyzleric If I knew weights I'd do more with this - lemme check crafting forums.

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        Dire Rabbit
        last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 14:24

        Objects with a 'unique use' property can only be used once per round, no matter how many APR you have.

        Potions are just flat out better. >_>

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          SpiffyMeister
          last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 14:54

          Potions are flat out better, yes.

          Puffy's bumbling Scum-goblin minion.

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            CrazyZleric
            last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 15:10

            Most baked goods weight 0.3-0.5 compared to potions 0.1.

            I have a hot take that the potion vendor should vanish! so the bakers and potions crafters get money and make a player based economy rather that the "Drinking the alchemist" store meta syndrome

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              V-Rage
              last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 15:15

              No, Thats a bad idea

              They take up way more inventory space and encumberance is a thing

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                O-louth @CrazyZleric
                last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 15:16

                @crazyzleric

                Id LOVE for the potion vendors to either vanish or TRIPLE in price. So it is available but hard to come by. Have each faction offer potions themed for them at a discount but otherwise, id say tripple the npc vendors.

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                Olouthitis: Character does awesome things for a few months, but inevitability hijacks an air ship and crashes it into an evil faction head quarters screaming battle cries.

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                  V-Rage
                  last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 15:31

                  Again thats just a plain bad idea

                  Tripling the prices would just make the game unplayable

                  Serious healing is already 120 per potion, at 360 you'd be at a loss even using one on anything but a 7 to 10 where you'd be at a loss on 2

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                    CrazyZleric @V-Rage
                    last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 15:34

                    @v-rage Thus as a potion maker, healing potions being simple to make I can make potions at half the price of vendors, the catch is I can only produce so many in a time span where you can just go and buy as many as you want from the vendor. So you HAVE options to get cheaper potions if you ask around for player potion makers

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                      O-louth @V-Rage
                      last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 15:49

                      @v-rage the point is that right now we have ZERO player economy. And we need it. Makes the server ten times better.

                      Character: Wouldnt you like to know?
                      Olouthitis: Character does awesome things for a few months, but inevitability hijacks an air ship and crashes it into an evil faction head quarters screaming battle cries.

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                        Zool @O-louth
                        last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 16:17

                        @o-louth said in Lower the potion prices.:

                        @v-rage the point is that right now we have ZERO player economy. And we need it. Makes the server ten times better.

                        In theory.

                        In practice, you can't find the right crafter online, so are screwed.

                        It would need to be combined with custom shops for players, which is a whole thing, and could end up with potions being way cheaper than they are now.

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                          V-Rage
                          last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 16:18

                          Then theres the fact not everyone likes the crafting system

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                            Puffy @V-Rage
                            last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 16:19

                            This is being looked into

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                              Dire Rabbit
                              last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 17:04

                              The lack of a player economy sucks.

                              Hardcore.

                              But forcing people to use a fairly obtuse crafting system to get the most essential of supplies is a horrible way to build investment or interest. You'll just drive more people off.

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                                CrazyZleric @Dire Rabbit
                                last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 17:17

                                @arcanigans well it's either that or Dumping fortunes into supply meta returns. Which is a meta I personally hate

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                                  CrazyZleric @Dire Rabbit
                                  last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 17:26

                                  @arcanigans Also thank you for bringing that point up! The crafting system is SO grindy and the gates to make anything sellable or profitable in some regards that most players don't want to do it!

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                                    Paramour @O-louth
                                    last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 17:39

                                    @o-louth said in Lower the potion prices.:

                                    @v-rage the point is that right now we have ZERO player economy. And we need it. Makes the server ten times better.

                                    Strong disagree. Crafting as it stands is far outclassed by basic roleplaying, DM loot, faction loot, and pretty much everything else.

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                                      SpiffyMeister
                                      last edited by 9 Aug 2022, 17:49

                                      I've suggested a few ideas on the dm side of things to see if we can't get more potions into quests and stuff.

                                      Keep in mind, there's a fine line between, 'struggling to keep up with the jones' and 'haha, I got 50 stoneskin potions and 200 csw pots.'

                                      Puffy's bumbling Scum-goblin minion.

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                                        TheMinionOfArabel
                                        last edited by 10 Aug 2022, 04:07

                                        concerning wands, I am not suggesting to drop the rate drastically, just a little.
                                        I use multiple summons and I spend most of my healing on them and on other players. And I still got a bag almost full of healing wands. I turn in wands for PPs often. So maybe we drop the rate of wands -a little- in some places?

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                                          CrazyZleric @Paramour
                                          last edited by 10 Aug 2022, 15:07

                                          @paramour But not everyone has a faction or DM loot, we have almost zero player econ because so few want to suffer through crafting which is a HUGE gold sink until the end and you can make a profit off what you make.

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