Sparrow/half-orc model change

Primordial

Should players be able to use the human model to rp a half-orc given these conditions? Reason being the half-orc model is just awful.

list itemThey use a half-orc head
They keep all mechanical benefits associated with humans but don’t get them for half-orc(the +2 str for example)

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Puffy

Maybe we should consider just changing the PC half-orc appearance to the same as half-elf? I think this change would make the half-orc race more versatile for RP for everyone. Plus, if you wanna play a fugly half-orc, just pic the ugly head. lol

Puffy

@puffy said in Sparrow/half-orc model change:

Maybe we should consider just changing the PC half-orc appearance to the same as half-elf? I think this change would make the half-orc race more versatile for RP for everyone. Plus, if you wanna play a fugly half-orc, just pic the ugly head. lol

I'm willing looking into doing this change, if everyone is fine with it.

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Primordial

@puffy

This would be amazing! I think the community would love it :)

Echo

They are HALF ORC. There should be some genetic obviousness for their heritage. https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Orc

Echo

However!! If you can find a decent halforc model hak, that would make more sense than using "half elf" because elves are puny, orcs are big.

Maybe this, but it only works for male? https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/hakpak/rescaled-half-orc-models

Prof. Misclick

Two options for me would be

We could just mandate that half orcs have to take the human “heavyset” model and pick an appropriate head? That might solve the model clipping issue. Effectively a human with RP fluff (Temporary for now)
Find a way to change the model for future endeavours.

Also RIP Hreth. Best half orc ever. @puffy

Echo

@prof-misclick said in Sparrow/half-orc model change:

We could just mandate that half orcs have to take the human “heavyset” model and pick an appropriate head?

I can accept this, I guess.
I've scoured the Neverwinter Vault and found nothing useful.

May can just give them the 10% size increase?

Primordial

@echo

This is what sparrow specifically would be going for(test pc). I think 10% size increase and appropriate head would be good.

These changes may emphasize the importance of rping traits of a half-orc that are regularly overlooked while also being a tolerable model for pcs.

If we went the make our own model route, I'm assuming customization via equipment would be difficult.

Someone (spiffy I think? xD) mentioned how the current half-orc model could be used as Orcs! That way we could make custom tribes depending on the relevant plots at the time. I thought it was a neat idea worth bringing up :).

Lord_Acererak

@primordial

I.. I love the idea of custom tribes.

We could use the generic orcs later on for Underdark orcs, who can be represented differently from the other models.

When way later, we develop an underdark.

Puffy

@echo said in Sparrow/half-orc model change:

May can just give them the 10% size increase?

Would work, human model and 10% size increase

Prof. Misclick

Thoughts on the heavy set model? Half orcs are big.

Echo

Heavy-set model and maybe size increase.
I know she wants her halforc to be sexy but...

Primordial

I understand wanting to keep things in check, in fact I encourage it! It makes the game more immersive and enjoyable. But it should be managed this way all around(IMO)

Personally, I don't think sparrow will disappoint. She will convincingly be a half-orc through rp and detailed physicial traits, I do understand this being more than just one player though. Let players decide if they want to be a fat half-orc or not, even dwarves have the heavy set model as optional. Room for creativity/customization brings fun and interesting concepts!(Within reason)

"Half-orcs were, on average, somewhere from 5 feet and 9 inches to 6 feet and 4 inches (1.8 to 1.9 meters) in height and usually weighed around 155 to 225 pounds (70.3 to 102 kilograms)."

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Half-orc

This is our silver dragon touched name saucy. Saucy has the default character description upon examining. Saucy is in a joint concept involving the rare case of 2 other dragontouched siblings with no character outline or direction as of rn. I am in fact, not seeing the sauce.

The half-orc model change is not a hill I want to die on tbh. But if this is declined(or all half-orcs are heavy set model), I believe it to be reasonable to follow through with our vampire/black dragon touched looking pc named saucy. I don't think the two are comparable, I think the half-orc is far more permissible. But that is me :).

Echo

@primordial You're right.
human model and 10% size increase
appropriate orcish head

Prof. Misclick

Fine with me.

Puffy

Alright.. now to do it XD