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    SteelsSweets Banned
    last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 01:31

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    Tested with a few different ones. It says 3 charges with 2 charges per use, so it should remain after use. They don't. They vanish.

    You find these in undead remains. Various areas around the server.

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      Zool @SteelsSweets
      last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 09:44

      @SteelsSweets said in Bone Charms:

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      Tested with a few different ones. It says 3 charges with 2 charges per use, so it should remain after use. They don't. They vanish.

      You find these in undead remains. Various areas around the server.

      Well that's weird because that's not how the game engine works.

      > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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        SteelsSweets Banned
        last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 13:01

        Pretty sure its the base item, or whatever you call it.

        It vanished with that one pictured and the insulating one as well as endurance.

        Haven't tested others yet but pretty certain it will be the same.

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          Zool
          last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 16:17

          Yep, I know it happens, I'm just wondering why, it's not a custom script or anything, and the game engine doesn't normally behave that way.

          > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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            Zool
            last edited by Zool 22 Mar 2021, 16:31

            Well, seems like that's just how the game engine works these days. It must have changed at some point, possibly with the introduction of EE, as this little trick definitely used to work.

            Kinda sucks.

            > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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              Smirn0ff
              last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 19:07

              On nwn wiki it says unless it is marked as plot, item will be destroyed when it is useless (ie not enough charges left).
              https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Charge

              Are there any uses for these charms once they run out?

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                SteelsSweets Banned
                last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 19:09

                Yes. They are prestige items.

                So the way I think they are meant to work, you use it once then turn it in for prestige points.

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                  Valkyrie
                  last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 19:12

                  No either you use it or you can turn in for prestige points otherwise we would be keeping empty healing wands with that idea

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                    Mortui
                    last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 19:37

                    I am aware of a few people keeping wands with 1 charge left to turn them in for prestige.

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                      Zool @SteelsSweets
                      last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 22:39

                      @SteelsSweets said in Bone Charms:

                      Yes. They are prestige items.

                      So the way I think they are meant to work, you use it once then turn it in for prestige points.

                      This was actually my intention when I made these items.

                      The healing wand thing is another story - however, when I have been testing out prestige with various player characters, I gained a large bulk of my prestige from single charge healing wands after using all the other charges.

                      I cannot say this is the official stance of the DM team as I don't think we've discussed it - but, you can use the wands, and then turn them in with one charge - and in my personal opinion, if that's not meant to be possible, then they should be built/scripted/modified that way. (again, not official DM team stance, personal opinion!)

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                        Zool @Smirn0ff
                        last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 22:40

                        @Smirn0ff said in Bone Charms:

                        On nwn wiki it says unless it is marked as plot, item will be destroyed when it is useless (ie not enough charges left).
                        https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Charge

                        Are there any uses for these charms once they run out?

                        Yes, but when was this wiki entry updated? Because I am very... very sure this was a useful trick that DM's used all the time in the past, to make items with an odd number of charges, and 2 charges per use, so that your helm of tricks didn't poof once you used the last charge, and you could keep the stats.

                        > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                          Zool
                          last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 22:43

                          According to the wiki it was true in 2011...

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                            Zool
                            last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 22:47

                            And I just loaded up the ancient version of the game, and it still happens.

                            Is this really how it always worked...????

                            mind explodes

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