Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme

Echo

LG Human, 8 Sorcerer Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov

Telthor Summoning Theme

Using the theme to provide an intriguing hook to what should be considered a very exotic and generally feared culture as per lore of the Rashemi Witch. I understand the Telthor per the lore of Faerun up to and including the Unapproachable East. I feel there will be some tensions between being a law enforcement officer of the Vigilant Sun along with an awakening part of the character in harnessing the spirits of the land and perhaps some characters will pick up on the irony of what is effectively an alien, culturally, enforcing the law of their city.

Echo

Spiffy allowed the player to make the theme and it's been added
that said, the creatures need to be verified for balance.

For example, the stag has two 2d6 slam and gore 1d8, with 16AC and 56HP, and it's only a Summon III creature. Compare that to the Shadow theme (app only) Summon III creature has 30hp, 14AC, and 1d10 bite)

Lord_Acererak

The shadow theme should probably be buffed in comparison shouldnt it? Most of the themes have more bite than that.

Puffy

@Echo said in Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme:

Spiffy allowed the player to make the theme and it's been added

Based of this, neit. You do not make something for yourself the first thing you do as a builder.

SpiffyMeister

So it'd have been fine if I did it? What's the issue if I allowed it?

Puffy

@SpiffyMeister said in Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme:

So it'd have been fine if I did it? What's the issue if I allowed it?

If they had apped first then been approved? Yes, doing it ahead of time just for a single concept? No.
We shouldn't allow players to tailor things for their own personal gain as builders, nor should DMs make tailored summoning books for specific PCs unless its EiG or apped for ahead of time.
Unless we want to clog down with a lot of specialty summoning books?

SpiffyMeister

I don't see anything particularly wrong with throwing it in resman

Puffy

It's a slippery road, but if everyone else is fine with it go for it. But my opinion is that it isn't a good idea :)

Midgardsormr

I'm inclined to agree with Puffy. This would set a bad precedent.

Man in the Mist

Eh, I would tell them we cannot do something like this again, but they already scripted it so it seems a shame not to use it. So long as we are firm and act with more understanding of the rules in the future it should be fine imo

Man in the Mist

That said that summon is about on par with most of the summons. In fact the only summons that seem weak so far are the kos ones. That needs to be fixed.

Echo

Then he sent me the app in the first post, then we followed up with this:

SpiffyMeister

@Man-in-the-Mist said in Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme:

Eh, I would tell them we cannot do something like this again, but they already scripted it so it seems a shame not to use it. So long as we are firm and act with more understanding of the rules in the future it should be fine imo

Prof. Misclick

Let’s not do this again. Unless it is making a custom oath for me and my eventual paladin to be OP.

Lord_Acererak

Hear that MiTM? Professor doesn't think you got the chops to be a Gruffman.

Man in the Mist

Wrong forum post ya rube