Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme

[Echo]

Spiffy allowed the player to make the theme and it's been added
that said, the creatures need to be verified for balance.

For example, the stag has two 2d6 slam and gore 1d8, with 16AC and 56HP, and it's only a Summon III creature. Compare that to the Shadow theme (app only) Summon III creature has 30hp, 14AC, and 1d10 bite)

[Lord_Acererak]

The shadow theme should probably be buffed in comparison shouldnt it? Most of the themes have more bite than that.

[Puffy]

@Echo said in Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme:

Spiffy allowed the player to make the theme and it's been added

Based of this, neit. You do not make something for yourself the first thing you do as a builder.

[SpiffyMeister]

So it'd have been fine if I did it? What's the issue if I allowed it?

[Puffy]

@SpiffyMeister said in Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme:

So it'd have been fine if I did it? What's the issue if I allowed it?

If they had apped first then been approved? Yes, doing it ahead of time just for a single concept? No.
We shouldn't allow players to tailor things for their own personal gain as builders, nor should DMs make tailored summoning books for specific PCs unless its EiG or apped for ahead of time.
Unless we want to clog down with a lot of specialty summoning books?

[SpiffyMeister]

I don't see anything particularly wrong with throwing it in resman

[Puffy]

It's a slippery road, but if everyone else is fine with it go for it. But my opinion is that it isn't a good idea :)

[Midgardsormr]

I'm inclined to agree with Puffy. This would set a bad precedent.

[Man in the Mist]

Eh, I would tell them we cannot do something like this again, but they already scripted it so it seems a shame not to use it. So long as we are firm and act with more understanding of the rules in the future it should be fine imo

[Man in the Mist]

That said that summon is about on par with most of the summons. In fact the only summons that seem weak so far are the kos ones. That needs to be fixed.

[Echo]

Then he sent me the app in the first post, then we followed up with this:

[SpiffyMeister]

@Man-in-the-Mist said in Nothing But Smiles / Osvetchinnaya Tsoimbovokov / Telthor Summoning Theme:

Eh, I would tell them we cannot do something like this again, but they already scripted it so it seems a shame not to use it. So long as we are firm and act with more understanding of the rules in the future it should be fine imo

[Prof. Misclick]

Let’s not do this again. Unless it is making a custom oath for me and my eventual paladin to be OP.

[Lord_Acererak]

Hear that MiTM? Professor doesn't think you got the chops to be a Gruffman.

[Man in the Mist]

Wrong forum post ya rube