@Mr-Moloch

much love and sorry i did think of that

@ZLandrloff

@Mr-Moloch

@Mr-Moloch

Ok, I think I can explain what I'm seeing better with the actual staffs.

I'm not questioning how you calculated the crafting price from the toolset value. I understand what you're saying there: if the toolset says the item is worth more, the crafting recipe ends up costing more.

What I'm questioning is why the toolset value is so much higher when the actual benefits of the staffs are very similar.

For example, look at the High Priest Staff of Death T3.

Total crafting cost:
T1 = 10g
T2 = 800g
T3 = 6,000g
Total = 6,810g

Its T3 Greater Power gives:

Now compare that to the Staff of Power T3.

The Staff of Power costs around 20k+ total to craft, but its Greater Power is giving essentially the same type of benefits.

And this isn't just the Staff of Death.

Most of the other staff lines I've looked at — cleric, druid, divine soul, etc. — end up costing around 6,810g total. They still get the spell slots, +2 skill bonuses, and their usable spells/powers.

The wizard staffs are the odd ones out.

The Staff of Power and Greater Staff of Aegis are around 20k+ total, while most of the other T3 staffs are around 6.8k total.

So I understand that the toolset is saying the wizard staffs are worth substantially more.

What I'm trying to show is that I don't see where that extra value is coming from in actual use.

If one staff costs around 6,810g and another costs around 20,000g+, I would expect the 20k staff to be substantially better. But when I compare what the staffs actually give the character, I'm seeing very similar bonuses and powers.

That's the part I think needs to be looked at. It may not be the crafting-price formula that's wrong — it may be whatever properties on the wizard staffs are causing the toolset to value them so much higher.

maybe a voice chat and a visual explanation of what im seeing might help

@Mr-Moloch

so cleric, druid, divine souls get a total cost 6820 gold staffs with spell slots 1,2,3 +2 skill and +2 skill and spells .. are lesser casters and beings then a wizard that gets the same 1,2, 3 spells slots +2 skills +2 skills. and spells and pays 22210 for a staff

@Mr-Moloch

ok maybe i didnt make it clear the wizard staff is t1= 10g t2= 6800 t3 6000 total 20010k.
the same staff for a cleric staff of death t1=10g t2= 800 t3=6k total 6810
staff of wisdom 10g, 800, 6k same bonus
only other one is the staff of agis that is a wizard staff that cost in total 20010k

staffs give t1, t2, t3, spell slots and +2, +2 skills and then some usable spells. why is it the mage cost alot more.. same with druid and all the other staffs they only cost 6810 total

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Issue Description:
Both of these Tier 2 staffs are priced at 6,800 gold to craft, while all of the other Tier 2 staffs I have seen cost 800 gold.

This also means these two Tier 2 staffs actually cost more to craft than Tier 3 staffs, which cost 6,000 gold. This makes me think the 6,800 gold cost on these two Tier 2 staffs may be incorrect.

There also seems to be a separate balance issue with staff crafting costs in general. The jump from Tier 2 to Tier 3 is extremely large:

• Tier 2 staff: 800 gold
• Tier 3 staff: 6,000 gold
• Difference: 5,200 gold
• Tier 3 costs 7.5 times as much, a 650% increase

For comparison, a Tier 3 blacksmithing item costs only 800 gold to craft.

The 6,800 gold cost on these two Tier 2 staffs looks like a possible pricing error, while the overall 800 → 6,000 jump for Tier 2 to Tier 3 staffs seems like a separate crafting balance issue.

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QOL issue the workstation little bench its having an opening / routing to open issue. have to try a few times to get it to open... other time its first click.

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