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On behalf of poor Valkyrie, regarding celestial summons

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    Acemvi
    last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 18:47

    @Valkyrie, this one's for you lol.

    For a summon theme that is technically illegal and, unless I'm mistaken, is generally earned-in-game, the celestials are very weak. Most of them are either on par or arguably worse than the equivalent animal summons. I understand the old ones were overpowered, but I think the nerf was a bit of an overcorrection.

    "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." - Albert Camus

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      gDarDog
      last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 18:54

      Beholder theme is the worst IG. Any theme that requires you to earn IG/illegal to use should be head and shoulders above the rest

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        Acemvi
        last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 18:55

        I am happy to make this a general, "illegal summon themes should be stronger" thread because I agree.

        "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." - Albert Camus

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          DracoS
          last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 19:02

          Anything that going have law faction / cults out to murder you /steal yur blood/ make a example. Should totaly be a tad stronger than most themes. I would also surgest giving them bonus's vs evil to be on theme too.

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            Zool
            last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 22:56

            We recently balanced these...

            They -should- be significantly more powerful than generally available summons (some of them have a decent bit of SR I think? most stuff doesn't get that) but not as powerful as say, infernal stuff.

            Reason being, these are illegal in some instances, but not outright everyone will kill you for them.

            > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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              Ethika @gDarDog
              last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 23:06

              @gDarDog The demon one is pretty strong as far as i know

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                Crimson_King
                last edited by Crimson_King 6 Jul 2021, 23:44 7 Jun 2021, 23:44

                Acer tested the demon/infernal summons on me, can confirm they’re tough. They kept up with two full buffed melee.

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                  Valkyrie
                  last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 01:36

                  So celestial have Sr is that spell resist? I know they have immunity to paralyze and resistance to electricity

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                    Zool @Valkyrie
                    last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 21:42

                    @Valkyrie Check their character sheets, I think SR is listed on it if they have it.

                    > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                      HellzYeah
                      last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 21:56

                      I will say that Spell Resistance is a pretty niche upgrade on summons, since it's rarely a consideration in PvE. I wasn't extremely impressed with the Celestial Summons as they were, but without looking at the sheets or experimenting with them more closely I couldn't say with certainty that they need much more.

                      (That isn't an invitation to make more mobs cast spells at us, by the way)

                      Magpie [17:05] I am begining to notice that people have my quotes within their signitures on the forums <_<

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                        Valkyrie
                        last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 03:01

                        I looked and it does not show any SR on them granted I only looked at the 2nd and 3rd circle summons. They do have +saving throws and resistance to electricity and immunity to paralyze. The justice archon show a decreased ac. When I get on again I will look at the 1st circle ones though they are simple fodder and don't do much. And once I hit 8 again I can look at the 4th circle ones that are monks

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                          Zool
                          last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 19:05

                          @HellzYeah said in On behalf of poor Valkyrie, regarding celestial summons:

                          (That isn't an invitation to make more mobs cast spells at us, by the way)

                          [Writes note]

                          "Script more mobs to cast spells at Hellz specifically based on player feedback"

                          > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                            Zool @Valkyrie
                            last edited by 9 Jun 2021, 19:05

                            @Valkyrie said in On behalf of poor Valkyrie, regarding celestial summons:

                            I looked and it does not show any SR on them granted I only looked at the 2nd and 3rd circle summons. They do have +saving throws and resistance to electricity and immunity to paralyze. The justice archon show a decreased ac. When I get on again I will look at the 1st circle ones though they are simple fodder and don't do much. And once I hit 8 again I can look at the 4th circle ones that are monks

                            We're lookin at em

                            > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                              Echo
                              last edited by Echo 14 Jun 2021, 17:47

                              All celestial theme summons have been given boosts.
                              v3718

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