On behalf of poor Valkyrie, regarding celestial summons
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@Valkyrie, this one's for you lol.
For a summon theme that is technically illegal and, unless I'm mistaken, is generally earned-in-game, the celestials are very weak. Most of them are either on par or arguably worse than the equivalent animal summons. I understand the old ones were overpowered, but I think the nerf was a bit of an overcorrection.
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Beholder theme is the worst IG. Any theme that requires you to earn IG/illegal to use should be head and shoulders above the rest
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I am happy to make this a general, "illegal summon themes should be stronger" thread because I agree.
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Anything that going have law faction / cults out to murder you /steal yur blood/ make a example. Should totaly be a tad stronger than most themes. I would also surgest giving them bonus's vs evil to be on theme too.
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We recently balanced these...
They -should- be significantly more powerful than generally available summons (some of them have a decent bit of SR I think? most stuff doesn't get that) but not as powerful as say, infernal stuff.
Reason being, these are illegal in some instances, but not outright everyone will kill you for them.
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@gDarDog The demon one is pretty strong as far as i know
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Acer tested the demon/infernal summons on me, can confirm they’re tough. They kept up with two full buffed melee.
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So celestial have Sr is that spell resist? I know they have immunity to paralyze and resistance to electricity
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@Valkyrie Check their character sheets, I think SR is listed on it if they have it.
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I will say that Spell Resistance is a pretty niche upgrade on summons, since it's rarely a consideration in PvE. I wasn't extremely impressed with the Celestial Summons as they were, but without looking at the sheets or experimenting with them more closely I couldn't say with certainty that they need much more.
(That isn't an invitation to make more mobs cast spells at us, by the way)
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I looked and it does not show any SR on them granted I only looked at the 2nd and 3rd circle summons. They do have +saving throws and resistance to electricity and immunity to paralyze. The justice archon show a decreased ac. When I get on again I will look at the 1st circle ones though they are simple fodder and don't do much. And once I hit 8 again I can look at the 4th circle ones that are monks
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@HellzYeah said in On behalf of poor Valkyrie, regarding celestial summons:
(That isn't an invitation to make more mobs cast spells at us, by the way)
[Writes note]
"Script more mobs to cast spells at Hellz specifically based on player feedback"
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@Valkyrie said in On behalf of poor Valkyrie, regarding celestial summons:
I looked and it does not show any SR on them granted I only looked at the 2nd and 3rd circle summons. They do have +saving throws and resistance to electricity and immunity to paralyze. The justice archon show a decreased ac. When I get on again I will look at the 1st circle ones though they are simple fodder and don't do much. And once I hit 8 again I can look at the 4th circle ones that are monks
We're lookin at em
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All celestial theme summons have been given boosts.
v3718
