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    Balance of the construct summons with 3 circle example comparison

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    • W
      Walrus Warwagon
      last edited by Walrus Warwagon

      While construct summons have advantage of not being affected by the death magic and sneak attacks, I think that that these advantages is situational and so valued less than always useful advantage of having higher AC, damage, saves across the board and pool of feats, especially when buffed. Here's comparison of circle three default summon to circle three construct summon. Maybe construct summon can use a minor buff to make them more useful outside the specific situation of facing a rogue or necromancer.
      Edit: It would be nice to see a bit of discipline on the golems because it should be hard to trip the heavy wall of metal.
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      • SpiffyMeisterS
        SpiffyMeister
        last edited by

        One is immune to crits and sneaks, the other isn't.

        That said, we do need to override the default themes asap.

        @Echo @DoctorDeth can we have the animal theme be the default theme for -everyone-?

        Puffy's bumbling Scum-goblin minion.

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        • GumbaG
          Gumba
          last edited by

          Could use a Damage Reduction for 1 or 2 pts of damage, that'd be good to balance out.

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            JoeKickAss
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              Walrus Warwagon
              last edited by Walrus Warwagon

              I have to admit. Haven't played vanilla for a lo-ong time, I completely forgot how default theme looks like and was sure that dire wolf is a custom summon. That's why I was shocked by the difference.
              One of my points still stands however, golems can use some Discipline. Between lack of such and low AC it's incredibly easy to knock them down. 1-2 point of damage reduction would've been nice too because with the low AC, even when buffed, big hp pool helps only so much. This way they would've been better suited against many weak blows than few crushing ones, which suits the theme.

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              • PuffyP
                Puffy
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                Dire Wolf is pretty OP tbh

                @SpiffyMeister
                the real bench mark for success is if you seduce a puffy pc or npc
                @Prof-Misclick
                Puffy said "Don't you trust me? Then vote yes NERD!"
                #scaredofstrongwomen

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                • EchoE
                  Echo
                  last edited by

                  This is why I asked you guys to test during Alpha.

                  I'll get to them next time I can get the mod. (Probably not til Sunday)

                  "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                    Walrus Warwagon
                    last edited by

                    While my initial failure to recognize default dire wolf is embarrassing, I'd like to ask you to consider adding 5% physical immunity and mild discipline bump to the constructs, please. Also, circle 5 summon seems to be relatively weaker than circle 4 summon, due to only 1 attack per round. Maybe I am missing an important detail, but didn't noticed any special effects about it that can compensate for the attack loss.

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                      CitizenBane
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                      • EchoE
                        Echo
                        last edited by

                        Dire wolf is modified now from Bioware basic for Summon 3.

                        "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                          Walrus Warwagon
                          last edited by

                          Yes, but dire wolf is irrelevant. It was my mistake. My main point is just a construct theme suggestions. Sorry for misunderstanding.

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                          • EchoE
                            Echo
                            last edited by

                            I'm working on Constructs currently.

                            "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                              Walrus Warwagon
                              last edited by

                              Thank you so much!

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                              • EchoE
                                Echo
                                last edited by

                                Adjustments made to summons at various levels.
                                v6467

                                "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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