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    • toportimeT
      toportime
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      With the average lvl on the server at 8th level, a Rogue with 18 charisma has a 45% chance to use a 1st lvl scroll if they put every skill point they could in UMD. That just seems... extreme for the server power level.

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      • toportimeT
        toportime
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        It seems the Scroll DC is only jacked to the 25+spell level due to the Hardcore setting on CoA, there seems to be a way to ignore the special Scroll DC and put it back to the normal UMD checks, but I am unsure if there is a way to change it otherwise. The NWN wiki has all the info https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Use_magic_device

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        • Strife and DiscordS
          Strife and Discord
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          I rewrote that entire code months ago and made it possible for the team to decide what DC they want to use for it. Right now its still set to 25 until they make the decision how to approach it and balance it.

          But UMD is no longer using vanilla nwn code for scrolls.

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          • toportimeT
            toportime @Strife and Discord
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            @strife-and-discord That doesn't change the issue, just how to adjust the issue if that is decided on.

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            • ZoolZ
              Zool
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              It's just about DM team decision. There is no technical issue at all as Strife described

              > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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              • ParamourP
                Paramour @Zool
                last edited by

                Just a bit of a bump.

                Anything moving on this one?

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                • EchoE
                  Echo
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                  If anything had moved, we'd post about it.
                  Have patience, Grasshopper.

                  "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                  • ZoolZ
                    Zool
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                    It's just one of many things that are always being discussed in the huge balance fandango

                    > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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                    • Prof. MisclickP
                      Prof. Misclick
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                      Stay tuned for an update regarding this.

                      Happy gaming!

                      Retired

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                      • Prof. MisclickP
                        Prof. Misclick
                        last edited by Prof. Misclick

                        Change being implemented by the amazing @Strife-and-Discord

                        Scroll UMD DC is calculated as
                        25+innate spell level

                        Current system example
                        Maxed UMD (Level 8) 11
                        Cha assuming +2
                        Item assuming +1
                        Total is 14.

                        That means you need to roll an 11 + innate spell level success +/-45% of the time and decreasing.

                        With SF: UMD need to roll an 8 + innate spell level success +/-60% of the time and decreasing

                        Altered Feat SF: Use Magic Device

                        • This one rewards characters who invests in SF: UMD by lowering the DC check by 3 (Scrolls only!)

                        Example

                        DC is calculated as 25+Innate Level
                        Magic Missile has a DC of 26 (25+1) without SF: UMD

                        Magic Missile has a DC of 23 (25+1 -3 ) with SF: UMD

                        Now a character needs to roll 5 + innate spell level success +/- 75% of the time

                        Will be live

                        • Strife v8063

                        Happy Gaming!

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