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    Promotion Petey/Unifie Rastaban/Claus

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    • PuffyP
      Puffy
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      Since they are a team like a Thayan Knight/Magus, I found 1 app most pleasing

      @SpiffyMeister
      the real bench mark for success is if you seduce a puffy pc or npc
      @Prof-Misclick
      Puffy said "Don't you trust me? Then vote yes NERD!"
      #scaredofstrongwomen

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      • SpiffyMeisterS
        SpiffyMeister
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        Openly runs around saying he's a vampire thrall apparently.

        Nope. Tower would not reward something that is liable to their reputation.

        Puffy's bumbling Scum-goblin minion.

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        • EchoE
          Echo
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          I had a really good RP session with Rastaban yesterday. He never mentioned "thrall" or "vampire" only that he had convinced Ivo to do a ritual so that he could learn what was needed to know in order to save the world sort of thing.

          My interactions with Claus have been limited.

          "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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          • SalemS
            Salem
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            They are being incredibly openly evil without repurcussion. They are making conflict and driving the Ghost plot very well. They have been very creative with their rituals and have been actively trying to solve the plot.

            Maybe consider a "promotion" with the vampires instead, and have the Tower give them an ultimatum. Stop messing with the Tower reputation or be kicked out.

            Give them a criminal bounty if they choose to fully ally with the vampires.

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            • SpiffyMeisterS
              SpiffyMeister
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              Promoting them means the tower tacitly approves of their openly evil shenanigans, really.

              Puffy's bumbling Scum-goblin minion.

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              • MidgardsormrM
                Midgardsormr
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                I'm inclined to agree with Spiffy.

                They should be given the ultimatum. Either they advance in Tower and stay there, or they abandon, get criminal warrants out on them and advance with vampires.

                I get the feeling they would accept the vampiredom honestly.

                And this is while the Crimson Guard and Hunter's Union are actively talking to the vampires opposing Pale Man and crew. This is going to be very interesting!

                So I'm voting YES, but WITH SPECIAL CAVEATS that they would be given the choice of Tower or Pale Man Vampries.

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                • EchoE
                  Echo
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                  But they cannot play as vampires. The race does not exist for PCs to play. Becoming a vampire would result in retirement of the PCs.

                  "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                  • SalemS
                    Salem
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                    They don't have to become the vampire subrace. Either make them thralls or simply make them on the same team as the vampires (still being human but with the loot equivalent of Tower promotion). And criminal warrants because they would now have allies and power to FD.

                    I feel like now is the time they need to choose which side to full embrace. Hellz (Ivo) will definitely stay with the Tower. Claus and Rastaban will likely choose to abandon Tower and ally with Pale Man.

                    Basically, the Tower PCs will end up splitting making this conflict more complex!

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                    • MidgardsormrM
                      Midgardsormr
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                      What Salem said.

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                      • PuffyP
                        Puffy
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                        Just curious, since the Tower is allowed to do whatever really. Is the issue with the vamp that they are thralls to an outside being, rather than Raubagaush?

                        @SpiffyMeister
                        the real bench mark for success is if you seduce a puffy pc or npc
                        @Prof-Misclick
                        Puffy said "Don't you trust me? Then vote yes NERD!"
                        #scaredofstrongwomen

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                        • MidgardsormrM
                          Midgardsormr
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                          I think it's that and the fact that vampires are well known for drinking the blood of the innocent rather indiscriminately. They're abominations and would bring down unholy fury from the True Sun and any other non-evil gods' clergy.

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                          • SpiffyMeisterS
                            SpiffyMeister
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                            They are protected from all magical crimes. That said, they are very image conscious and people going around serving demonic overlords and vampires don't really cut a proper image for the Tower.

                            Puffy's bumbling Scum-goblin minion.

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                            • Prof. MisclickP
                              Prof. Misclick
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                              From the faction insight post

                              ...The Tower wields incredible IC power but there are extreme IC consequences for failure or embarrassment. Think what would happen if you blended the War Wizards with the Red Wizards of Thay and sprinkled in a dose of the old Mage Guild's notable members.

                              So once the secret is out Raubagaush (or a High Mage more likely) would move to wipe out the problem. Either make a spectacle of it for PR or just vanish with no ties or information.

                              Retired

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                              • PuffyP
                                Puffy @Prof. Misclick
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                                @Prof-Misclick said in Promotion Petey/Unifie Rastaban/Claus:

                                From the faction insight post

                                ...The Tower wields incredible IC power but there are extreme IC consequences for failure or embarrassment. Think what would happen if you blended the War Wizards with the Red Wizards of Thay and sprinkled in a dose of the old Mage Guild's notable members.

                                So once the secret is out Raubagaush (or a High Mage more likely) would move to wipe out the problem. Either make a spectacle of it for PR or just vanish with no ties or information.

                                Voting yes based of this, with the plan being that once they push TOO far. They get wiped out

                                @SpiffyMeister
                                the real bench mark for success is if you seduce a puffy pc or npc
                                @Prof-Misclick
                                Puffy said "Don't you trust me? Then vote yes NERD!"
                                #scaredofstrongwomen

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                                • PuffyP
                                  Puffy
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                                  1 no, 4 yes. Confirmation starting, please post objections if there are any

                                  @SpiffyMeister
                                  the real bench mark for success is if you seduce a puffy pc or npc
                                  @Prof-Misclick
                                  Puffy said "Don't you trust me? Then vote yes NERD!"
                                  #scaredofstrongwomen

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                                  • MidgardsormrM
                                    Midgardsormr
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                                    Assuming that yes, if they go too far, it's permdeath then I agree.

                                    There needs to be serious risks for trafficking with vampirism.

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                                    • PuffyP
                                      Puffy
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                                      tbh they will be an excellent example of it :)

                                      @SpiffyMeister
                                      the real bench mark for success is if you seduce a puffy pc or npc
                                      @Prof-Misclick
                                      Puffy said "Don't you trust me? Then vote yes NERD!"
                                      #scaredofstrongwomen

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                                      • Prof. MisclickP
                                        Prof. Misclick
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                                        No.

                                        He's already gone too far imo for the tower to tolerate. He should be made an example of.

                                        • Attempted assassination -use another PC if possible
                                        • Tossed out of the tower forcing him to more closely ally with the Vamp or find other allies.

                                        No way the tower would sanction this guy for promotion.

                                        Retired

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                                        • MidgardsormrM
                                          Midgardsormr
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                                          That's why I said earlier in the thread for ultimatum. They need to be dealt with, ICly.

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                                          • EchoE
                                            Echo @Prof. Misclick
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                                            @Prof-Misclick said in Promotion Petey/Unifie Rastaban/Claus:

                                            No.

                                            He's already gone too far imo for the tower to tolerate. He should be made an example of.

                                            • Attempted assassination -use another PC if possible
                                            • Tossed out of the tower forcing him to more closely ally with the Vamp or find other allies.

                                            No way the tower would sanction this guy for promotion.

                                            I'm with the Professor on this. These guys are too much a risk to the Tower atm.

                                            "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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