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    Voss_
    last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 19:23

    Human/Fighter/LG/9/Dominic Swift

    Crownguard Rank 3

    Dominic will continue to oppose evil and criminals and seek to sentence those who show remorse to re-education and service to the crown to show a fair hand and try and change theirminds on criminality

    He will spearhead investigations into threats to the realm such as he has been doing with the Planar Disturbances and seek to combat them to build faith and trust in the Crown Guard

    He will seek to work closely with goodly aligned groups such as the House of the Morning and Illuminated Blade to share information and combat threats to promote a goodly way of dealing with things

    He has accomplished a lot, Led the operations against Volmar and killed him, Dealt with the lycan Siona, Led things against Dourhand and combatted the Cyricists

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      Voss_
      last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 20:41

      I'll vote yes.

      He's been around and has done enough to warrant a promotion at this point. It'll also be more useful to have at least one higher ranking member in the Crownguard.

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        Zool
        last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 20:47

        I just wish he'd applied to be some shitty noble's fifth son before hand, because his character just makes the faction not really look like what it kinda was meant to be, and turns it into a sorta generic guards, which wasn't the vibe we hoped for.

        He's done "stuff" though, mostly followy stuff (as in, follow the DM's bread crumbs) but I guess?

        > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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          Voss_
          last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 20:53

          Requiring a background application beforehand to join a faction in a way that make sense is kind of weird.

          He's done the usual Verk stuff which is rally everything and everyone to go poke around for plots. Man's also more or less the only person to go after criminals. Which I guess makes him a guard but its in the name Crown Guard.

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            Zool @Voss_
            last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 21:50

            @voss_ said in Verk/Dominic Swift/Crown Guard Rank 3:

            Requiring a background application beforehand to join a faction in a way that make sense is kind of weird.

            Yeah, I agree actually, might be something we could look at later.

            I just find it a shame the characters that had noble stuff just haven't really worked too well.

            > !!!MOLES for the MOLE GOD!!!

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              Voss_
              last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 18:29

              Seems I am the only one who voted on this, anyone else?

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                Salem
                last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 18:31

                I'll vote Yes

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                  Man in the Mist
                  last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 19:43

                  We need to stop rewarding verk for playing the same lawkeeper over and over again. Tell him to app for another helmite OC or play as the faction was intended, which is an elite guard for bored nobles and eccentrics.

                  I had visions, I was in them;
                  I was looking into the mirror,
                  to see a little bit clearer,
                  the rottenness and evil in me.

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                    Prof. Misclick
                    last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 21:10

                    @man-in-the-mist said in Verk/Dominic Swift/Crown Guard Rank 3:

                    We need to stop rewarding verk for playing the same lawkeeper over and over again. Tell him to app for another helmite OC or play as the faction was intended, which is an elite guard for bored nobles and eccentrics.

                    This

                    Retired

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                      Voss_
                      last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 21:25

                      You made a faction with lawkeeping authority that non-nobles/blue bloods can join.

                      It doesn't seem fair to Verk to stonewall him because he isn't playing the faction to what we envisioned it to be exactly. That is more our fault than it is his, I agree he's just repeating his characters but he's also pushing things hard and trying to get results.

                      If there's specific RP requirements to advance a rank this needs to be made very clear.

                      I don't want to go to Verk and tell him his efforts mean nothing and he can stop trying.

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                        Man in the Mist
                        last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 21:38

                        He did the same thing with the grey watch and I repeatedly said letting him pursue this faction was a mistake <_<

                        He's already run out multiple players from the faction, one of which was actually what we wanted with the faction, which I should stress he's done with every iteration of lawkeeping factions so far.

                        Let him progress further if you guys want, I'm not the one who has to keep making new lawkeeper factions.

                        I had visions, I was in them;
                        I was looking into the mirror,
                        to see a little bit clearer,
                        the rottenness and evil in me.

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                          Voss_
                          last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 22:15

                          Seems to be heading into the direction of no. I get you guy's concerns I'm just not sure what to tell him. So someone else will have to let him know why he was denied.

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                            Prof. Misclick
                            last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 22:42

                            He deserves something. Just not what the faction is about is all.

                            • NPC sponsorship from the Helmite Chuch
                            • “Special Position” like OC in the Church
                              ^ Weapon master PrC
                            • alignment shift to LN since from what I’ve ever seen he’s not really LG and then DC

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                              Man in the Mist
                              last edited by Man in the Mist 15 Sept 2022, 23:00

                              Here's what I'd suggest, just a thought-

                              Maybe instead of a promotion he's kept where he is in terms of proper rank, but made "captain" of the non nobles in the crown guard. This separates him from the crown guard proper, while giving him the maximum authority he could ever achieve in the faction. It'd essentially be a subset of the faction that would constantly be looked down on and spat upon by the others, but it'd keep with the theme and hopefully keep him happy so nobody has to tell him his characters are boring.

                              I had visions, I was in them;
                              I was looking into the mirror,
                              to see a little bit clearer,
                              the rottenness and evil in me.

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                                Echo Team Lead @Prof. Misclick
                                last edited by 15 Sept 2022, 23:06

                                @prof-misclick said in Verk/Dominic Swift/Crown Guard Rank 3:

                                He deserves something. Just not what the faction is about is all.

                                • NPC sponsorship from the Helmite Chuch
                                • “Special Position” like OC in the Church
                                  ^ Weapon master PrC
                                • alignment shift to LN since from what I’ve ever seen he’s not really LG and then DC

                                Sponsorship of the Church would be cool. Definitely needs an alignment shift. He is NOT goodly.

                                @man-in-the-mist said in Verk/Dominic Swift/Crown Guard Rank 3:

                                made "captain" of the non nobles in the crown guard

                                Could work also.

                                "You can complain if you weren't asked; you can't complain if you were asked but didn't contribute." ~ Professor.

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                                  Prof. Misclick
                                  last edited by Prof. Misclick 15 Sept 2022, 23:07

                                  There are stated faction goals as well as specific NPC goals. That is what I will base my yes or no vote on. Verk was warned that his character would have an exceedingly difficult time in the faction. I even believe there were some DM‘s that were against having Dominick in the crown guards from the get-go. I do not think we do the faction or Verk any favours by perpetuating a character that just is not a good fit in the faction. Let’s find another way to reward him.

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                                    Salem @Prof. Misclick
                                    last edited by 16 Sept 2022, 16:39

                                    @prof-misclick said in Verk/Dominic Swift/Crown Guard Rank 3:

                                    He deserves something. Just not what the faction is about is all.

                                    • NPC sponsorship from the Helmite Chuch
                                    • “Special Position” like OC in the Church
                                      ^ Weapon master PrC
                                    • alignment shift to LN since from what I’ve ever seen he’s not really LG and then DC

                                    Definitely this. Despite similar concepts, since the beginning of time, he is comfortable with this and really pushes plots. He is a CoA staple :D

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                                      Voss_
                                      last edited by Voss_ 18 Sept 2022, 21:32

                                      I'm fine with either.

                                      We can have him be sponsored by the Church of helm with an official position, more or less him being 'scouted' as the Crownguard isnt using him to his full potential.

                                      Or give him that 'captain' position with some upgraded gear.

                                      Verk said he'd be fine leaving the crownguard for the helmite church.

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                                        Puffy @Voss_
                                        last edited by 19 Sept 2022, 12:20

                                        What are we rewarding him for exactly

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                                          Man in the Mist
                                          last edited by 19 Sept 2022, 16:40

                                          Bulldozing everything with his usual antics. He's technically involving people even if it's in the lamest most sterile ways possible.

                                          I had visions, I was in them;
                                          I was looking into the mirror,
                                          to see a little bit clearer,
                                          the rottenness and evil in me.

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