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    • Dire RabbitD
      Dire Rabbit
      last edited by Dire Rabbit

      Version: 7659

      Lesser Meteor Swarm forces the caster to be about 2 feet from the desired point of impact, damages the caster, and is in every conceivable way a less desirable version of Ice Storm.

      Description reads:

      Deals 3d6 bludgeoning and 2d6 fire damage, plus 1d6 fire damage for every 3 levels past 5, to all targets in a 6 2/3-meter radius around the caster.


      This isn't what happens. It gives you a targeting icon, and when you click, it walks you up to where it's targetted and slams the spell down on you.

      Can I suggest at the same time it's brought in line with Ice Storm? Long range, does fire damage on par with it and maybe a little more. Change it to d8/2 caster levels. It's a 5th level spell slot that works against a very common resistance, after all. The number of times you'd even be able to use it at all is fairly rare.

      These changes would make it worth taking for more than just the cool visual.


      Ice Storm Description Reads:

      Innate level: 4
      School: evocation
      Components: verbal, somatic
      Range: long (40 meters)
      Area of effect: huge (6.67 meter radius)
      Duration: instant
      Save: none
      Spell resistance: yes

      Description: All creatures in the area of effect take 3d6 points of bludgeoning damage and 2d6 points of cold damage. Ice storm will do an additional 1d6 cold damage per additional 3 caster levels.

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      • toportimeT
        toportime
        last edited by toportime

        As per the Spell Changes it reads:
        Deals 3d6 bludgeoning and 2d6 fire damage, plus 1d6 fire damage for every 3 levels past 7, to all targets in a 6 2/3-meter radius around the caster

        And is a Self Targeted spell. Source: https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/46746/spell-changes/8

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          MadsAP
          last edited by

          Seems it's currently inferior to the 4th level spell Lesser Fire Storm.
          1d8/level fire damage. Even if the target saves against Fire Storm, it's potentially still more than what you'd get to do with Lesser Meteor Swarm.

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          • Dire RabbitD
            Dire Rabbit
            last edited by

            I get that this isn't a suggestion thread, but the visual effect makes it a very poor 'nova' type spell. We already have so many of them, too.

            Changing it to a higher level targetted spell would make it worth taking, right now there's no reason to. Even if it did work as intended.

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            • toportimeT
              toportime @Dire Rabbit
              last edited by

              @arcanigans Raising it any higher level would put it outside of CoAs lvl range, at least per the forums it is a 5th lvl spell. 6th lvl spells require 11th lvl so not going to happen with the current range.

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              • Dire RabbitD
                Dire Rabbit @toportime
                last edited by

                @toportime

                I never said to take it out of the level range?

                9/10th level arcanists don't really have any evocation options for area magic aside from Firebrand. The visual is such a good way to show off being a high level fire and lightning spellcaster that it really deserves a reason to be seen.

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                • toportimeT
                  toportime @Dire Rabbit
                  last edited by

                  @arcanigans said in Meteor Swarm Has Several Issues:

                  Changing it to a higher level targetted spell would make it worth taking, right now there's no reason to. Even if it did work as intended.

                  You horribly mistyped that if you were not asking to make it a "higher level targetted spell". Sorry if I misunderstood that.

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                  • Dire RabbitD
                    Dire Rabbit @toportime
                    last edited by

                    @toportime

                    My communication skills are constantly atrophying. I meant to say 'higher level in relation to other arcane evocations' or something like it. It's a moot point by now.

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                    • toportimeT
                      toportime @Dire Rabbit
                      last edited by

                      @arcanigans said in Meteor Swarm Has Several Issues:

                      Making it into a high level targeted spell would make it worth taking, right now there's no reason to. Even if it did work as intended.

                      Slight edit for you that I suspect reflects your intent.

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