Seeking Suggestions for Loot

Prof. Misclick · 12 Jun 2021, 15:54

Right! I forgot that the quests have 3 chests so when making the items keep in mind where they should be/how much of a chance they should have to spawn.

Prof. Misclick · 12 Jun 2021, 16:01

Also the “can’t be better than craftable loot” is explained further as this.

The easy quests (4-6) should be in line with the low end crafting. That doesn’t mean that no quest item can be better it is to serve as a guideline for the general power level. All the crafting stats are done basically so an easy comparisons.

Repeat for the moderate (6-8) and hard quests.(7-10)

We can certainly discuss more as each quest is opened up for review on the forum.

Cheers

Acemvi · 12 Jun 2021, 16:02

I'll be honest, there is probably nothing more important to CoA at the moment than a quest and loot revamp. This should really be priority number 1 for most of us. Every single time there's a reboot of the server's setting people leave because there's a content drought and invariably it's due to a lack of interesting quests.

It's probably really boring work, I suppose, but it's vital.

Prof. Misclick · 12 Jun 2021, 16:04

No one is disagreeing that this needs fixing. Thanks for the help.

Wulfric · 12 Jun 2021, 18:18

@Echo I think we don't need the export, I want to run quests IG anyway, I'll just screenshot the interesting pieces after them :)
And since I died 3-4 times in a row, I can do that with newb quests too for now hehe

What really would help is:

base item changes (2da)
HAKs that contain appearances (relevant to quest loot items) and stuff IF there is any
Which variables to set on prestige items
Script(s) & variables that "generates" the loot on the chest (to set the correct variables, if any, and to test out the items)
Anything else I forgot but is needed to create appropriate quest loot

I'm requesting these so the Admins should only need to vote / feedback on the items and not completely redo them because of variables and stuff.
In the meanwhile I'll do items that use the basic appearances / item types, and will revisit them when I know which variables to set.

If you or any other admin can put those here or send me on Discord, I'd be really happy!

@Prof-Misclick said in Seeking Suggestions for Loot:

It would be helpful if each quest that is being worked on has its own thread opened in the Suggestions/ Quest feedback forum. Discussions brainstorming of content etc can all be done there before any items even get made. Just a thought. That’s how the DMs do it for these types of things. We can also chime in to help with any questions about power levels and ideas for fun stuff.

wilco, good idea

And a small note: I am too not a time god so don't expect instant results, but if you guys think that loot normalizing will help get players back and I won't sit around alone in the EU times, I'm all in for it. Crafting gets boring when you have nothing else to do (and are not in a major faction just trying to keep yours alive) :(

Anyway, cheers!

Echo · 6 Dec 2021, 18:36

@Wulfric said in Seeking Suggestions for Loot:

base item changes (2da)

Not sure what you mean here

HAKs that contain appearances (relevant to quest loot items) and stuff IF there is any

Not sure how to upload those here as the files are huge and there are several of them. I'll see about making a place for people to download them.

Which variables to set on prestige items

iPrestigeReward

Script(s) & variables that "generates" the loot on the chest:

Chests are in the standard palette already with the correct names/tags:

Anything else I forgot but is needed to create appropriate quest loot

Not sure...?

Wulfric · 6 Dec 2021, 18:47

@Echo said in Seeking Suggestions for Loot:

base item changes (2da)

Not sure what you mean here

Was thinking that there are some new custom base items used on CoA that's in the baseitems.2da

For the haks I think a google drive link is the best

thanks for the answers!

Zool · 12 Jun 2021, 20:14

Doesn't everyone have the haks.. so ... they can you know, play on the server?

sharkinajar · 12 Jun 2021, 20:19

@Zool nope, because nwsync

Wulfric · 12 Jun 2021, 20:32

@Zool said in Seeking Suggestions for Loot:

Doesn't everyone have the haks.. so ... they can you know, play on the server?

It is in a compacted and merged format that you can't directly use. If you have all the time on earth you can extract them but it would take ages :D