[No]Dagonlives/Shapeshifter(Were-boar) & Wildwalker

Echo

Shapeshifter(Were-boar) True Neutral/4/ Uhtred Euofur
What specific perk(s) (faction, special background, etc)

Wildwalkers, Wereboar

A few sentences on how you plan to make the server more fun to play on for everyone, through your characters actions/story.

I think the server could use a minor antagonist and nature character that would be actively pushing plots against crazy planar people and wizards

Part of my desire for a were-character is they seem really fun to play and I could do dungeons on my own early on when it's not always easy to find other players to level with at the times I play.

I would be going for a very saxon esque theme with this character, focusing on guardianship of the forest, preventing exploitation,
as well as entreating the nature spirits to heal places of drought and blight.

He will show a particular interest in the helmlands due to all the strange delicious truffles growing there, which he can smell being a hog-man.

This character would act as a bit of a councillator, and counsellor, though his were-like nature would obviously give others pause, and server as a way to bring conflict to him. At core he'll be a minor antagonist.

I haven't played a were character in about 7 years and it's always a blast to do that mix of animalism and humanity

Probably just play under Dagonlives

Brief background as relevant to the application.

Savaged and mauled by a wereboar while hunting in the forest as a youth, Uhtred was given to the local hullack circle to be raised as a druid.

His new nature meant that he could no longer live a normal life with his family or village. While ostensibly human, like most lycans he lives a cursed half life, though his particular affliction, unlike those of a werewolf can be more readily controlled. Still, he is of an age now where he is ready to go out into the world, and the recent fungus growths in the helmlands would provide a ready problem for him to investigate. Hogs are great at finding truffles, even mutated ones after all..

Other- A few examples of how you plan to portray the subrace. (Features, traits, noticeable differences through role-play

TL:DR: I"m going to be roleplaying Hogzilla trying to eat as many magical truffles as possible.

Boars are notably territorial and ornery. They eat without surcease and often ravage the areas they are in by rooting for grubs, insects roots or anything remotely editable.

To a normal person, Uhtred might appear to have something akin to an eating disorder as his primal nature insists upon him gorging upon as many calories as possible, and he's not particularly picky about who or what it is.

Thus, if he can be eating something, he probably will be. He will be noteably ornery, and have a hair-trigger temper, ready to savage or maul anyone who appears to be a threat to him.

This will make interactions in cities difficult, which he is likely to avoid without good reason.

Boars have few natural predators due to their fierceness and this is likely to be represented as a hair-trigger aggression reaction.

SpiffyMeister

btw he is a druid

Puffy

Not sure I trust Dagon oocly with a lycan tbh his ooc attitude with pvp and losing can be shaky. Which isn't a good combo with lycan

SpiffyMeister

Votes

Echo

Undecided? Neither opposed nor in favor. Not sure what "eat magic truffles" is going to do to be fun for other characters on the server though.

Echo

[3:14 PM](Daagon): What's the status on that app? No Bueno?
[3:15 PM]Echo: still under discussion
[3:16 PM](Daagon): Any feedback?
[3:17 PM]Echo: "Not sure what "eat magic truffles" is going to do to be fun for other characters on the server"
[3:18 PM](Daagon): I'll elaborate
[3:19 PM](Daagon): Basically it looks like spiffy introduced these new mushrooms you can find in the helmlands that give powerful buffs
[3:20 PM](Daagon): But they can result in the character turning into some sort of fungus monster or something. It's implied there's a negative consequence from continual consumption 
[3:20 PM](Daagon): Nobody is really sure or at least it's not public player knowledge or my knowledge
[3:21 PM](Daagon): The idea is I'd buy all these mushrooms from players, start interest in their aquisition, possibly go stake out the hemlamds as hostile forage territory (attack others who go there) and take as many of these mushrooms as possible to see what happens 
[3:22 PM](Daagon): The joke 'eat all the truffles ' is just a reference to how pigs are trained to sniff out rare truffles because they do it better than dogs
[3:23 PM](Daagon): I don't see these mushrooms as a relevant plot yet, I wanted to make it one
[3:23 PM](Daagon): And get people interested in studying them
[3:23 PM]Echo: im just not sure that mushrooms/truffles are justification for a powerful subrace.
**[3:24 PM](Daagon): Well it's a bit of a meme like sewer croc**
[3:24 PM]Echo: but i will put your comments in the app discussion for others to see
[3:24 PM](Daagon): Truffle pig
[3:24 PM](Daagon): It's supposed to be a bit funny
[3:24 PM](Daagon): And likely I'll end up at least a moderate antagonist to most of the server
[3:25 PM](Daagon): Like 'watch out for that truffle crazed were pig'
[3:25 PM]Echo: ok

Really not interested in a powerful subrace just for the meme.

Voss_

Dunno, just one aspect.

I think Dagon would do just fine.

Echo


[3:25 PM](Daagon): For whatever reason, I do well when my concepts are not completely serious but are played straight
[3:25 PM](Daagon): Like it's amusing but it's dry humor
[3:26 PM](Daagon): My last successful arch druid on efu was 'clifford' and his form was a big red wolf
[3:26 PM](Daagon): And I played it entirely straight
[3:26 PM]Echo: 🤦‍♀️
[3:27 PM](Daagon): Clifford got the highest druid app position as great druid leading all the druids 
[3:27 PM](Daagon): The meme was never once referenced icly
[3:27 PM](Daagon): But people could have a giggle when a big red wolf ganked them and threatened to eat them
[3:28 PM](Daagon): It cut some of the tension in a good way without robbing the scenes
[3:30 PM](Daagon): Similarly imagine...
[3:30 PM](Daagon): 'care going through the helmlands' the truffle-eater could be about!'
[3:31 PM](Daagon): And I'll legit terrorize and possibly kill players if it's called for to enforce narrative consequences 
[3:31 PM](Daagon): But that hint of facepalm will be there lol
[3:32 PM](Daagon): It could be I get killed and turned into a cloak or something
[3:33 PM](Daagon): I think that players would genuinely find this fun to interact with but it doesn't work without the pig humor
[3:34 PM](Daagon): Go pig  🐖or go home
[3:37 PM](Daagon): And I couldn't find a druid pig form that worked
[3:38 PM](Daagon): Also hogzilla as a villian sounded pretty great
[3:39 PM](Daagon): Only sewer croc could top that
[3:40 PM](Daagon): Sorry if I wrote too much, I just really liked the idea even if it's not conveyed perfectly
[3:45 PM](Daagon): I think the players would definitely find it fun.

Puffy

Not convinced lycan shouldn't be given on a whim

Salem

I don't care either way. Nothing beats my werepig concept from back in the day. All others pale in comparison.

This concept needs to turn the druid faction into some minor misunderstood villains imo, get some conflict around them as the faction has none atm. Push conflict with Precept, for example, and as a wereboar, I want to see some truly unpredictable behavior against anyone and everyone, where even he is not truly trusted among the druids.

If I see just a bunch of solo questing, "cute piggy quest smasher", I'll avoid.

Echo

@salem said in Dagonlives/Shapeshifter(Were-boar) & Wildwalker:

If I see just a bunch of solo questing, "cute piggy quest smasher", I'll avoid.

This is what I'm afraid will happen.

Man in the Mist

Unless he details more how he's going to make the Wildwalkers more antagonistic it's a no from me

Echo

9:47 AM]Echo: do you have any details on how this pc is going to make the Wildwalkers more antagonistic?
11:23 AM: Hm. So this is hard to necessary write firmly about without knowing more about what the wild walkers are really doing at this time, and what the general playerbase is like. Antagonism is difficult to do well I find.
11:23 AM: I don't want to just be like Oink Oink get offa my land!
11:24 AM: Druids have a very ethically alien view on life and duty that doesn't necessarily fit with the general population or general interpretation by the average Cormyrian or adventurer.
11:24 AM: and I'd be pushing one of these ethical views that directly conflicted with the general viewpoint, but doing so in such a way that is interesting and compelling
11:25 AM: Example:

Druids often require lifeforce or 'blood' to re-energize the forest. Common plot point. A 'Good' druid will use their own lifeforce, or self sacrifice to this end
11:25 AM: but an antagonist would seek a different source, perhaps by capturing and ritually bleeding or slaying 'unimportant' people to rejuvenate locations of power.
11:26 AM: To my druid, it could be for example that they do not distinguish between 'life' and 'sentient life'
11:26 AM: a tree has as much right to live as a person, even if it's not really a thinking creature (to the average adventurer)
11:26 AM: A good example of how I did atagonism on a last concept was you'd permanently turn people into trees.
11:27 AM: That way you avoided killing them (Wasteful!) but they are just as useful as a tree as they are as a person aren't they? Consent is less of a concern!
11:27 AM: I also had some inspiration from a scene recently on the Hannibal Lector series where this person was feeding people alive to mushrooms to cultivate the mushrooms, believing the spores would make them able to 'communicate' with each other
11:28 AM: while in a real life setting this is mad, in Forgotten realms it's plausible this could be done (Create a network of mushrooms or decay to nourish the forest by sacrificing animals and innocent people to it)
11:28 AM: It really depends in part of on what the Wildwalker tenants and ideals are, and which druids are currently in the circle. As while I would be an antagonist, it's important you have your own people 'satisfied' or they will betray you.
11:30 AM: TLDR: I'd likely push druidic ethics that directly conflict with normal adventurer views but that druids within the circle would agree with. Life having equivalent value regardless of the form that life takes. Example: A slug or tree or dog has as much value as a person in terms of it's right to exist.
11:31 AM: But again, some of this is contextual. It's like finding the right idea that 'fits' as a source of conflict and that players who are having this anagonism directed at actually appreciate it OOCly rather than resent it.
11:31 AM: and also allows me as a player to not be alienated by 99% of the playerbase, which would be boring for me. Alienated by 75% is fine.
11:34 AM: On the surface this character would be very 'wizard-like' at least in the Tolkien sense. Or a bit like a shades of grey Merlin. Filled with folksy wisdom and strange perceptions.
11:35 AM: I think Saerhice was a great example of an 'antagonistic' druid done well on this server for example from another player
11:36 AM: He had his own morale code and way he acted, while still being interesting. Players wanted to interact with them even if it might end very badly for them.

Man in the Mist

A tentative and reluctant yes vote from me. Their answer sort of pleases me but I expect someone to be turned into a tree within the month

Man in the Mist

A tentative yes from me. But I want someone or something turned into a tree within the month.

Puffy

Rejected, majority says no