The Revolution
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That's the point, the trial would last moments, but they want Sir Misrim to be held to account- so we do just that, and he is proclaimed innocent in moments.
The point of trials is to find out if someone is guilty Pierre, so yes, often people are tried for things they did not do. It's called an accusation.
-Izereth
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Except they don't want a trial.
They want him dead because he's a noble and a member of the Misrim family.
We are not handing people over to these madmen and traitors.
Sir Pierre
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We try them, in the Palace, for all of the ten seconds it takes to ask who was driving the carriage.
Nevermind. Just trying to find options that don't involve the Palace pissing off one of the largest religions in the Kingdom.-Izereth.
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I'd agree that we would be willing to pardon the Temple of Tymora, if they execute Ercole and turn him and his possessions over to the Palace. He stole a chalice from Pierre, and Pierre should be able to recover that. Although I'd suggest new leadership is found.
Turning a noble over to them is exactly what they want. No, if any trial is held it will be for the driver of the caravan and not the noble.
I'd like to know what the funeral costs are for the child. If they ask a reasonable amount, I'm fine with the Council aiding in the payment for the funeral costs. If they expect some outrageous number like 100,000 gold to bury their child, then let Ercole cover the cost as he has already volunteered.
However, the Lower House CAN NOT be pardoned after all the crimes they have committed. And before you go bringing up the Murrain again Tristan, the crimes of the Lower House already heavily outweigh any crimes the Murrain had committed. Those are my thoughts anyway.
-Jenny
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The lower house won't accept a trial though
They wish to make an example of one of the nobility.
Sir Pierre
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This isn't about what the Lower House wants, the people want justice. Giving the driver of the carriage a trail is a form of justice. Although before claiming the driver is guilty of running the child over, I'd still demand proof that Ercole didn't push the child in front of the carriage. I'd also not take the word of anyone from the Lower House as any kind of proof that he didn't commit the crime. If no proof is brought from anyone else, then how can we prove that Ercole isn't the real murderer, and the driver is? Also, if we do put the driver on trial, I'd recommend not announcing it before hand, and asking any witnesses to appear at the Palace. We should also immediately say that any of the Lower House who try to speak without being spoken to, will be thrown out of the court if they try to say anything.
-Jenny
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It's quite hard to prove someone didn't do something.
-Izereth
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We don't know what the people want.
What we do know is that it is Ercole and Redlock who are making the demands supposedly from the people. All whilst sending the common man they supposedly care so much about to die with weaponry they supply or turn them into monsters with these mushrooms.
We must also remember that Redlock has incited attacks before including on Duke Misrims caravans and gotten away with it.
https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/55428/incident-report-church-of-tymora-eveningstar-tilverton
Most likely this inspired this rebellion against the King.
If they get pardoned for this unconditionally they will be emboldened to make even more ludicrous demands
Whilst I would agree with trialling the coach driver and a pardon for the church for yesterdays actions -if- they execute Ercole that is all we should offer
Sir Pierre
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I was hoping to show them some mercy, however I believe Talona recently gave me a vision. One where the Temple of Tymora was lost to Gondegal. They fortified the temple and would attack anyone who entered. In this vision, they were so adamant to fight us, that their goal was to kill all of us. I nearly died in this vision, only being spared by waking up and coming out of it.
Unfortunately, a firm hand must be shown here your majesty. Wield the hammer of justice and crush this rebellion before the entire kingdom is lost. If need be, I'm sure the Duke can offer some aid to crush this rebellion. Otherwise, all may be lost.
-Jenny
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Ursula, Izereth, Tristan, do you have any thoughts to add since I posted about this vision that Talona gave me?
-Jenny
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It should be noted that the war will not be on the church of Tymora.
They will keep their temple.
It is Redlock that will answer for supplying the revolution.
After that the church may elect a new high priest
Sir Pierre
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You didn't take any of those mushrooms did you Jenny?
I'm not too sure how the silence works, but I thought gods weren't communicating with their high priests, nevermind their lay followers.And I wonder why Talona would care about the situation anyway.
In short, perhaps have a think about what, or where else, this vision may have come from. And... it changes nothing with regards to my thoughts on all this.
That aside, visions are interesting to me. Perhaps you should enter the chamber of the dreaming at the sanctum with me some day.
-Izereth.
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Well a decision needs to be made.
I don't think there are any third options it's either punish them or give in to their demands.
I am for harshly stamping out this rebellion.
They have turned people into monsters, received armed support from Redlock, Assualted the palace, ransomed people among other things.
They demand pardons, shrines to their false god, more funding and the right to kill someone without trial.
If they get this the demands will keep coming.
I say we end the rebellion with swift force and bring security back to the city.
If the Precept agrees I am certain the request for bloodhounds to be permanently law enforcers in the historic district would easily pass
Sir Pierre
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I am deeply concerned about all this talk and rumors of Purple Dragons.
https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/57593/the-cost-of-freedom-is-great/5
https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/57636/seeking-revolutionists/7
https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/57645/sanguine-streets-purple-turns-to-red
I also have a eye witness of the reliable sort who saw a man in Purple Dragon uniform fleeing the Murdered Manticore after the battle there.
In light on this I think bringing in the army to stop the rioting forces in the historic could be tactically unwise and leave us vunrable to a coup attempt. The fact Duke Misrims men seems rather keen on the idea makes me eve n more concerned, considering his historic 'fluid' alegences.
On Jennys vision... do not fall back into your Murrican ways were your groups talks of visions and then tries to make them true please.
Dawnbrother Tristan
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Once again Tristran you believe the lies of slanderous fools
This supposed Purple Dragon who was seen in the slums was likely Lucius Hightower who took part in the raid and then went back at Jaces request to see who was around, His shield bears the insignia of Purple Dragons yet he is not one
Sir Pierre
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Hightower is the source. So we have a second uniform.
Dawnbrother Tristan
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Tristan I am just saying what Talona showed me. Which is, if we do not squash this rebellion right now it will expand like a plague and the death toll that you fear, will be an entire kingdom. Not that you care about that. You seem to support the rebellion these criminals want. Maybe this is how Eveningstar can steal more serfs from the Kingdom? Hmmm? Unlike you, I will stand against this rebellion and stand with the crown.
-Jenny
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Hightower freed a Purple Dragon, that the Lower House had captured.
No one else seemed to care, but I threw a lightning bolt at it while it was fleeing. I didn't want to give chase as the rest of the group were ignoring a Purple Dragon (an enemy of the Kingdom) while trying to find enemies of the kingdom, and they have insinuated certain things about me, so I was trying to follow their plan.
So I expect that could be where this purple dragon rumour came from.
Why the Lower House would capture and hold a Purple Dragon in their basement is an interesting question with many possible answers. One of which is, to cause this kind of problem for the council.
-Izereth
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Since the 4 days is almost up I have started the vote
https://nodebb.cityofarabel.com/topic/57720/vote-crushing-the-rebellion
I must strongly advise we stamp out this rebellion because if we give in to their ludicrous demands they will only want more and plunge the city into anarchy
Sir Pierre
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Tristian can be seen taking copies of file notes in Astar marked folders..
